I've been out of the blogging action for some time.NEways wanna tell you.....that im with you and that you better do something about these stupid fella's.GIVE THEM HELL.:)
I read your JAMMAG article on IIPM. You've done a thorough, fact-based exposure of what most of us suspected already. I appreciate your work and am with you, as you continue doing good work through your blog and JAM. Keep up the good work!
Hey 'Mr.IIPM Rankings - The Real Truth' - Firstly your name itself suggests you're a fake. Real bloggers use real names. Not defence mechanisms! :)
What Tehelka article pal? Care to share it with the rest of the world? Perhaps it was a special IIPM-sponsored one which never got released.
What is this? Blog Wars? I'm sure the next thing I'll see is you guys talking about JAM in your full page tomtoming ads. Bring it on! Rashmi's got the whole blogosphere on her side :)
Got linked to this place via another blogger who commented on my blog. I was wondering how did I miss the story on IIPM especially when I was very much in Bombay!!! Better late than never though. Always wondered if Arindam Chaudhary was related to Deepak Chopra.
Hi I've been following this blog for sometime now. I am very skeptical of IIPM's stature as a B-School, largely due to its in-the-face aggressive advertising tactics.
However it is heartening to see people like Shreyas and Andrew come up and argue in a decent manner for their institute. After reading comments of various fake bloggers in previous posts, I almost decided that IIPM was full of indecent ba^&*#!s who couldn't frame a decent sentence. IIPM, take note - if you have more people like Shreyas and Andrew...showcase them.
It's a real pity that people who speak freely are brought to a situation where they are forced to resign from their jobs, like Gaurav. Apparently IIPM threatened to burn Thinkpads in front of the IBM office unless action was taken against Gaurav. Is this what an MBA institute is supposed to stand for ? Demonstrations and picketing ? I wonder how you would justify that, Andrew and Shreyas.
I don't care about Arindam Chaudhari's academic qualifications. I know a lot of great managers who have no formal degrees in their areas, but have tons of practical experience. But how can he endorse such behavior from his institute's students ?
If IIPM really wanted to prove Rashmi or Gaurav wrong, all they could have done is carried out an official line of investigation into the matter - enquiring into the validity of the assertions. If muscle power is what they want to win by, they had better open a gladiatorial academy instead of a B-School.
It's sad about Gaurav, but I'm sure he will get a great job in no time. You don't have to dare to think beyond anything to realise that an IIM stamp scores light years ahead of an IIPM logo.
Actually I feel sadder for IIPM, as whatever little credibility they might have had before this mess started has been totally ripped apart by the incompetent and tactless way they reacted to it.
Not sure who was the fuckhead behind all of this muck, it seems it was Prof. Chaudhari, who used to be a flea manager at a poultry farm. He used to count the chickens before they hatched, and was thus chucked out because of the ridiculousness of the idea. IIPMians, get a life. Stop crapping on respected blogs.
No worries Ma'am, like other zillion bloggers, I express my complete support and would be happy to support you from a legal standpoint. Though I'm not a lawyer but the firm I work for has tons of them.
Hey Rashmi, I felt a deep sense of anguish at the comments some callous life forms unfortunately passing off as humans have posted. I really hope they are brought to book..you should definitely consider legal action, if only for the sake of the hallowed principles of democracy that we see being brutally violated so often in our country.
Rashmi, Kudos to you for a job well done. I came across a blog write-up on this affair, including some of the distasteful allegations that have been levelled against you. Plus ca change plus ca continue: evidently character assassination of a certain sort remains a potent weapon when it comes to women. While it's easy for someone like me to say, hope you keep your chin up!
Commenting here for the first time - but that's coz I read ur blog for the first time y'day. And this is largely away from this debate ( is that a relief? :-))
I said 'largely' coz before I move on, I wud comment on one thing - or ask one question to some commentors here - how is making fun of Arindam's 'ponytail' less personal attack than the stupid ones in the prev post about Rashmi's alleged 'lesbianism'?
Anyways, Rashmi, even though I came thanks to this debate thru some blog, I sat and read thru your entries from Jan onwards ( till about June) and was compelled to comment :
I am really attracted to the way u write - even though I did not agree to many view points, but the language you presented them was lucid, simple, and straight- and the best part is , without any 'attitude' or 'holier-than-thou' or 'i- m- the- best- and- all- rest- are- shit' tone, (that is often characteristic of many good English writers).
Really, at the point of sore repitition, let me say, it was a pleasure reading thru ur words.
And (groan), it also made me acutely aware of my own pathetic literary skills on my blog :(
One question that bothered me - in a post on 'boy oh boy' u mentioned, 'men only want one thing' - no offence taken , as I m sure u didnt mean any - and then, since u didnt specify that 'one thing' I will royally take it for whatever I mean ;-)) But the reactions to that post were quite vociferous. And you followed it up with another.
It was the last line of that other post that I wish to comment on - you said that u wud request ur son (if u had one) : "Make sure your girlfriend is someone you would feel proud enough to bring home and introduce to me"
The entire post/blog seems u r keen to be friends with ur offspring -at whatever best way u can. But if u make such a dictate to ur son, arent u robbing him off that comfort? After all, during the process of choosing, finding, or falling, it seems u wudnt be there, and only await the final result. For, in all probability, he wud be left to consult /discuss/rant/rave with his peer friends than with his parents, and leaves him pretty much isolated in a way, doesnt it? Plus, he wud be in constant pressure to ensure that he 'lives upto ur expectation' of that 'perfect bahu', doesnt it? This is pretty much the story in other spheres of life - career and studies included. I understand the sentence is still in hypothetical stage, and is well meant, but to a son, it will send very strong signals otherwise. I know that, for I am the only son of my parents, and often, instead of following what i might perceive correct, i find myself thinking - is this what my parents want? Can i take this 'trophy' back home and will my mother be proud of it?
I hope u got my point - not lucid enuff like u to get it across, but still... what i meant is that parents shud be there in the process of selection, rather than await the end result.
Well, for now, let me immerse in some more of ur writings, and perhaps pick up a few cues on how to present thoughts in a comprehensive but clear manner. Take care, and if I may say so, it wud be nice (and an ego-booster, honestly - i am a male after all ;-)) if u cud visit my blog sometime, and read thru the older stuff ( the main page right now is hardly worth reading , since i was largely away from active writing in a way)...
(The main blog link is given below; the blogger one is inactive, and profile created to comment mainly on blogs that disallow 'anon comments')
Hi Rashmi... soemeone pls do come up with the legality of this issue.... Can someone's personal blog, which is completely your terrirtory, be used in a legal battle against him? I have seen blogs from the USA that are fascists, racists and even exhorting terrorism..Nobody's been sued for that. I understand responsible journalism is one thing, but even if everything said about IIPM were untrue, how does it matter? Blogging is not journalism ..a blog is just an online diary..How can I one be persecuted for his thoughts, even if he screams hoarse about the country in his blog.... Rashmi, your silence is only giving all the wrong signals..do tell us whats happening
I'm an HR manager and I've had dealings with folks from IIPM before... i just love their strategy of (attempting to) hijacking other insti's placements.... i was once recruiting frontline sales execs from graduate colleges in delhi.... i'd hired a business centre and asked the shortlisted students from 4-5 colleges to come down there... and somehow IIPM got wind of this.... and landed in full force in their shiny blue suits (and beige saris!)... and requested me to consider their students too.... i was quite bemused and said to them that "hey... these are grad students, not MBA's i'm hiring... why would IIPM students even look at these jobs?".... and the chappie says... does not matter sir, we just want placements.... or words to that effect.... well, i said... if you insist... and so i interviewed a few chaps and hired a couple too.... a very vivid recollection i had was of this really really earnest boy.... who obviously came from a financially disadvantaged background..... i asked him how he'd financed his IIPM fee .. which I believe was some 4.5 lacs or somesuch then... and said he'd taken a loan for some 3 lacs.... i said to him, look this job will give you some 10-12k in hand every month, how will you service the loan EMI and also live on the balance (if any)?.... he said he's no choice as he felt he was gonna get a great placement after joining there and now with a sunk investment, he'd no option to carry thru.... sad.. not to say that this does not happen elsewhere, but somehow... not that this is a comment on the students of IIPM (I hired this boy and he's done really well).... but I get the feeling that its probably not right for insti's like these to do a snow job like this... i mean caveat emptor and all that... but this is career ka sawaal no?....
Rashmi, as a relative newcomer into the blogging scenario,i fully extend my support to you and your magazine!
But as mentioned before, it would be nice if your magazine published an 'errata' column in your forthcoming issues, indicating any mistakes, if any, in your report on the IIPMs.
And even i personally don't think that an institute couldn't possibly afford even Wi-fi hotspots!! They are highly affordable, and a very common installment in most places nowadays.
I am having a very funny feeling that andy can be Arindam Chowdhary by himself. After reading previous posts by IIPM students, I seriously doubt that they are capable of any sensible talks.
Alright Rashmi, there's been ample demonstration of support for you. Cheers to all boggers. But where are you? Could something keep you occupied other than the developments here, when so many eyes are fixed on this issue? The clear picture is not yet out; or, is it?
Hats off to you as a blogger. We are all with you. We are in the era..when there exists something known as Freedom of Speech. This fake IIPM cannot stand against you and Gaurav Sabnis. You people are great.
hello rashmi, carry on the fight against fake bloggers and haughty blabbers who seem to not know the power of free speech. p.s.-u are doing a great job.
Rashmi, Adding my support! Good going. You have taken indian blogosphere by storm. My supporting entry at http://www.desihub.com/blog/comments/mihir?anchor=indian_blogosphere_heating_up
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Hey rashmi;
ReplyDeleteI've been out of the blogging action for some time.NEways wanna tell you.....that im with you and that you better do something about these stupid fella's.GIVE THEM HELL.:)
I read your JAMMAG article on IIPM. You've done a thorough, fact-based exposure of what most of us suspected already. I appreciate your work and am with you, as you continue doing good work through your blog and JAM. Keep up the good work!
ReplyDeleteHey 'Mr.IIPM Rankings - The Real Truth' - Firstly your name itself suggests you're a fake. Real bloggers use real names. Not defence mechanisms! :)
ReplyDeleteWhat Tehelka article pal? Care to share it with the rest of the world? Perhaps it was a special IIPM-sponsored one which never got released.
What is this? Blog Wars? I'm sure the next thing I'll see is you guys talking about JAM in your full page tomtoming ads. Bring it on! Rashmi's got the whole blogosphere on her side :)
This is freaking hilarious!
ReplyDeleteCheers, keep it up RB.
Got linked to this place via another blogger who commented on my blog. I was wondering how did I miss the story on IIPM especially when I was very much in Bombay!!! Better late than never though. Always wondered if Arindam Chaudhary was related to Deepak Chopra.
ReplyDeleteHi
ReplyDeleteI've been following this blog for sometime now. I am very skeptical of IIPM's stature as a B-School, largely due to its in-the-face aggressive advertising tactics.
However it is heartening to see people like Shreyas and Andrew come up and argue in a decent manner for their institute. After reading comments of various fake bloggers in previous posts, I almost decided that IIPM was full of indecent ba^&*#!s who couldn't frame a decent sentence. IIPM, take note - if you have more people like Shreyas and Andrew...showcase them.
It's a real pity that people who speak freely are brought to a situation where they are forced to resign from their jobs, like Gaurav. Apparently IIPM threatened to burn Thinkpads in front of the IBM office unless action was taken against Gaurav. Is this what an MBA institute is supposed to stand for ? Demonstrations and picketing ? I wonder how you would justify that, Andrew and Shreyas.
I don't care about Arindam Chaudhari's academic qualifications. I know a lot of great managers who have no formal degrees in their areas, but have tons of practical experience. But how can he endorse such behavior from his institute's students ?
If IIPM really wanted to prove Rashmi or Gaurav wrong, all they could have done is carried out an official line of investigation into the matter - enquiring into the validity of the assertions. If muscle power is what they want to win by, they had better open a gladiatorial academy instead of a B-School.
It's sad about Gaurav, but I'm sure he will get a great job in no time. You don't have to dare to think beyond anything to realise that an IIM stamp scores light years ahead of an IIPM logo.
Actually I feel sadder for IIPM, as whatever little credibility they might have had before this mess started has been totally ripped apart by the incompetent and tactless way they reacted to it.
Well Ma'am,
ReplyDeleteNot sure who was the fuckhead behind all of this muck, it seems it was Prof. Chaudhari, who used to be a flea manager at a poultry farm. He used to count the chickens before they hatched, and was thus chucked out because of the ridiculousness of the idea. IIPMians, get a life. Stop crapping on respected blogs.
No worries Ma'am, like other zillion bloggers, I express my complete support and would be happy to support you from a legal standpoint. Though I'm not a lawyer but the firm I work for has tons of them.
Best wishes,
Rahul
I mean TheRealRahulJindal.
Its sad that Gaurav had to take such a decision. But I am sure he is gonna be back in business soon.
ReplyDelete-
Sandesh
http://oktoberchyld.blogspot.com/
Rashmi..
ReplyDeleteIgnore the morons. :) You did a great job.
Hey Rashmi,
ReplyDeleteI felt a deep sense of anguish at the comments some callous life forms unfortunately passing off as humans have posted. I really hope they are brought to book..you should definitely consider legal action, if only for the sake of the hallowed principles of democracy that we see being brutally violated so often in our country.
Hey Rashmi,
ReplyDeleteGlad to be of any help. :-)
Varna
Hey rashmi
ReplyDeletewant u to know lots of people are behind u and gaurav. keep up the good work
Rashmi,
ReplyDeleteKudos to you for a job well done. I came across a blog write-up on this affair, including some of the distasteful allegations that have been levelled against you. Plus ca change plus ca continue: evidently character assassination of a certain sort remains a potent weapon when it comes to women. While it's easy for someone like me to say, hope you keep your chin up!
Regards,
Umair
Dear Rashmi,
ReplyDeleteWith you! Go girl!
Dont let all the nasty crap get you down...A fake latin quote for the occasion" Illegitimi non-carborundum est!
Cheers!
Hi Rashmi,
ReplyDeleteCommenting here for the first time - but that's coz I read ur blog for the first time y'day. And this is largely away from this debate ( is that a relief? :-))
I said 'largely' coz before I move on, I wud comment on one thing - or ask one question to some commentors here - how is making fun of Arindam's 'ponytail' less personal attack than the stupid ones in the prev post about Rashmi's alleged 'lesbianism'?
Anyways, Rashmi, even though I came thanks to this debate thru some blog, I sat and read thru your entries from Jan onwards ( till about June) and was compelled to comment :
I am really attracted to the way u write - even though I did not agree to many view points, but the language you presented them was lucid, simple, and straight- and the best part is , without any 'attitude' or 'holier-than-thou' or 'i- m- the- best- and- all- rest- are- shit' tone, (that is often characteristic of many good English writers).
Really, at the point of sore repitition, let me say, it was a pleasure reading thru ur words.
And (groan), it also made me acutely aware of my own pathetic literary skills on my blog :(
One question that bothered me - in a post on 'boy oh boy' u mentioned, 'men only want one thing' - no offence taken , as I m sure u didnt mean any - and then, since u didnt specify that 'one thing' I will royally take it for whatever I mean ;-)) But the reactions to that post were quite vociferous. And you followed it up with another.
It was the last line of that other post that I wish to comment on - you said that u wud request ur son (if u had one) : "Make sure your girlfriend is someone you would feel proud enough to bring home and introduce to me"
The entire post/blog seems u r keen to be friends with ur offspring -at whatever best way u can. But if u make such a dictate to ur son, arent u robbing him off that comfort? After all, during the process of choosing, finding, or falling, it seems u wudnt be there, and only await the final result. For, in all probability, he wud be left to consult /discuss/rant/rave with his peer friends than with his parents, and leaves him pretty much isolated in a way, doesnt it? Plus, he wud be in constant pressure to ensure that he 'lives upto ur expectation' of that 'perfect bahu', doesnt it? This is pretty much the story in other spheres of life - career and studies included. I understand the sentence is still in hypothetical stage, and is well meant, but to a son, it will send very strong signals otherwise. I know that, for I am the only son of my parents, and often, instead of following what i might perceive correct, i find myself thinking - is this what my parents want? Can i take this 'trophy' back home and will my mother be proud of it?
I hope u got my point - not lucid enuff like u to get it across, but still... what i meant is that parents shud be there in the process of selection, rather than await the end result.
Well, for now, let me immerse in some more of ur writings, and perhaps pick up a few cues on how to present thoughts in a comprehensive but clear manner. Take care, and if I may say so, it wud be nice (and an ego-booster, honestly - i am a male after all ;-)) if u cud visit my blog sometime, and read thru the older stuff ( the main page right now is hardly worth reading , since i was largely away from active writing in a way)...
(The main blog link is given below; the blogger one is inactive, and profile created to comment mainly on blogs that disallow 'anon comments')
Warm regards,
Deepak Jeswal
http://randomexpressions.rediffblogs.com
Hi Rashmi...
ReplyDeletesoemeone pls do come up with the legality of this issue....
Can someone's personal blog, which is completely your terrirtory, be used in a legal battle against him?
I have seen blogs from the USA that are fascists, racists and even exhorting terrorism..Nobody's been sued for that.
I understand responsible journalism is one thing, but even if everything said about IIPM were untrue, how does it matter?
Blogging is not journalism
..a blog is just an online diary..How can I one be persecuted for his thoughts, even if he screams hoarse about the country in his blog....
Rashmi, your silence is only giving all the wrong signals..do tell us whats happening
I'm an HR manager and I've had dealings with folks from IIPM before... i just love their strategy of (attempting to) hijacking other insti's placements.... i was once recruiting frontline sales execs from graduate colleges in delhi.... i'd hired a business centre and asked the shortlisted students from 4-5 colleges to come down there... and somehow IIPM got wind of this.... and landed in full force in their shiny blue suits (and beige saris!)... and requested me to consider their students too.... i was quite bemused and said to them that "hey... these are grad students, not MBA's i'm hiring... why would IIPM students even look at these jobs?".... and the chappie says... does not matter sir, we just want placements.... or words to that effect.... well, i said... if you insist... and so i interviewed a few chaps and hired a couple too.... a very vivid recollection i had was of this really really earnest boy.... who obviously came from a financially disadvantaged background..... i asked him how he'd financed his IIPM fee .. which I believe was some 4.5 lacs or somesuch then... and said he'd taken a loan for some 3 lacs.... i said to him, look this job will give you some 10-12k in hand every month, how will you service the loan EMI and also live on the balance (if any)?.... he said he's no choice as he felt he was gonna get a great placement after joining there and now with a sunk investment, he'd no option to carry thru.... sad.. not to say that this does not happen elsewhere, but somehow... not that this is a comment on the students of IIPM (I hired this boy and he's done really well).... but I get the feeling that its probably not right for insti's like these to do a snow job like this... i mean caveat emptor and all that... but this is career ka sawaal no?....
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ReplyDeleteRashmi, as a relative newcomer into the blogging scenario,i fully extend my support to you and your magazine!
ReplyDeleteBut as mentioned before, it would be nice if your magazine published an 'errata' column in your forthcoming issues, indicating any mistakes, if any, in your report on the IIPMs.
And even i personally don't think that an institute couldn't possibly afford even Wi-fi hotspots!! They are highly affordable, and a very common installment in most places nowadays.
I think you're cool, Rashmi. True, you're also human.
ReplyDeleteBut you... you're way cool. Don't give up the fight, not just yet. And yeah, you need anything, just give us all a holler.
Gaurav, you too.
Dear fellow,
ReplyDeleteI am having a very funny feeling that andy can be Arindam Chowdhary by himself. After reading previous posts by IIPM students, I seriously doubt that they are capable of any sensible talks.
Regards
my support to gaurav and rashmi,
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http://indianhusbands.blogspot.com/2005/10/boo-boo-to-bullying.html
Jinesh Zaveri.
SIF Activist Mumbai
Alright Rashmi, there's been ample demonstration of support for you. Cheers to all boggers. But where are you? Could something keep you occupied other than the developments here, when so many eyes are fixed on this issue? The clear picture is not yet out; or, is it?
ReplyDeleteHey Rashmi,
ReplyDeleteHats off to you as a blogger. We are all with you. We are in the era..when there exists something known as Freedom of Speech. This fake IIPM cannot stand against you and Gaurav Sabnis.
You people are great.
Throw some updates..
ReplyDeletehey today is 13th october. you last posted on 9th october. now what happened? In banglore or what?
ReplyDeleteupdate something..or at least say something..
hello rashmi, carry on the fight against fake bloggers and haughty blabbers who seem to not know the power of free speech.
ReplyDeletep.s.-u are doing a great job.
Rashmi,
ReplyDeleteAdding my support! Good going. You have taken indian blogosphere by storm. My supporting entry at http://www.desihub.com/blog/comments/mihir?anchor=indian_blogosphere_heating_up
-mihir
Adhe Says......
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