Tuesday, September 26, 2006

RJ Regurgitation: 89.1 FM Dubai

The world really is a global village. This, I realised, when I received this email from a reader of my blog in Dubai. She writes:

Yesterday, I was listening to one of the radio stations here (89.1 FM) and the RJ was reading out (very badly) a movie review for Dor. As he was reading it out I realized that he was reading out your review, word for word.

"Since when did widows in Rajasthan wear dark blue clothes? I always thought they wore white! In fact, the clothes Meera wears after Shanker's death resemble a burqa more than anything else... and this to me seemed odd throughout the film.

I also felt that for the first time Nagesh Kukunoor has made a film which got caught up in exotic foreigner-friendly locations. That the backdrops got more importance than the struggle of the characters themselves.

And honestly, I wish he would at best make a cameo appearance and not actually play a part in every film. At the very least, he needs to lose that Hyderabad-meets-Hudson accent!"

This whole bit was said word for word. He did not acknowledge the fact that it has been taken from your blog or anything.

I felt this was a bit unfair, so I sent the radio station an sms saying that the review was copied from the blog Youthcurry and that I would let the author know about it.

The RJ calls me back in 10 mins saying " you wanted to talk to the author right? I'm the author. Go ahead. What do you wanna say?"

I told him that the review was taken from Youthcurry by this person who is the editor of JAM and he asked "Do you have any idea where Jam gets their reviews from? Do you know who writes it? We are part of the JAM *something* (I forget what) panel .

For a second I faltered thinking that maybe you had one of your reporters write it and the RJ might be of them. Then I remembered how he was reading the review. He could hardly pronounce the words correctly, and was obviously reading the review out loud for the first time.

So I called his bluff, and he then started talking about how radio is a free medium and that he can pick up anything from anywhere and say whatever. And that he writes for magazines as well and he never copies, but if a few words happens to come in here and there, that is not a big deal.

He tried to put it in my head several several times that it's not copying. I guess it may not be. But I still feel you should've been acknowledged or at least he could've said something like " According to this review from JAM mag..."

And the fact remains that he tried to pass off as the author. Which is a LIE.

Also, when I asked him for his name ( cos I really didn't know who he was, all the RJ's of this station sound the same and I had just turned on the radio at the time, I was driving home) he refused to say. Which I found to be an extremely immature and cowardly thing to do. His name is Harsha, if at all you're interested.

If what's happening is alright by you, ok then. If not, please do let the station know.


XXXX (name withheld)

Well, it's not OK and I am letting the station know by printing this letter on my blog. It would be funny if it were not so... unethical. To use the word 'I' and rattle off someone else's thoughts and views shows such a paucity of brainjuice that I have nothing more to say.

Google scripting and google journalism is NOT ok. Not for a college project, not in print, not on radio.

Will 89.1 FM care to lay down this law for its RJs?

42 comments:

  1. If it is possible why dont you sue them? vasanthi.rediffblogs.com

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  3. Sorry - had earlier posted with their website. Realised you'd already linked there.

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  4. Damn.Where are the ethics.

    I am quite impressed by the person from Dubai to have done what they did.

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  5. google journalism seems a very polite term for what is, baldly, plagiarism.

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  6. Chances are, this must have been going for long before it was uncovered. RJs ripping off blog posts has happened before with Maddox's webpage as well. On that occasion, the RJ had to tender an apology and you should settle for nothing less.

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  7. I would advise against the generic usage of Google's trademarked name. I suggest you cross it out. Here's why.

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  8. Maam,
    Send them a legal notice!!!

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  9. Harsha is one of the last remaining cool RJs on radio4...am baffled by the whole thing up there in ur post actually .He is a trully a sensible guy! But plagiarism is plagiarism, just not good...the fact that that he has not quoted the source/author and tried to dodge the issue like this is pathetic! I guess he panicked! :D

    So many of the RJs talk about things taken off the internet, but i guess they do mention the source at all times.

    Wonder why Harsha was doin the movie review anyway lol he does the "live" shows mostly...

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  10. since, there is an act of plagiarism. Google has officially declared that you cannot use Google has verb - please check out this link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_(verb). Would a a term like 'Google Journalism' be right???

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  11. pathetic !

    Kudos to a really attentive reader who caught the guy !

    I agree...the radio station should tender an apology !

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  12. Anonymous12:18 AM

    These people need to learn a thing or two about RJ-ing from their English counterparts. Those RJs are naturals!

    Back to Harsha, maybe he doesn't read your blog, Maybe he took it from JAM.

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  13. Send them legal notice,
    Copy right issue seems to be more and more getting complicated now ...
    Other thing is that if he could have acknowledge you, are you ready for this "free" acknowledgement ( i dont meant money here) ...
    Despite of all ack. you may not want to reveal your thoughts outside your blog ... isnt it ...


    Abhishek

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  14. Congrats to the reader who dared to make a radio station face up to its mistake.. It requires guts..
    Great to hear there are folks who do care in these days of everybody copy somebody...

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  15. Apparently, your blog has quite a bit of following here in DXB. As a long time reader of both JAM and your blog, I'll certainly do my bit by spreadng this news amongst my pretty vast network of emirates group colleagues, friends and acquaintances.
    Vinay

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  16. Looks like your blog has quite a bit of following here in DXB. As a long time reader of your blog, I'll do my bit by spreading the word amongst my 5000+ strong emirates group colleagues and friends here. This guy's lack of ethics needs to be exposed.

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  17. haha, hi Vinay! At mercator by any chance? :D Just spoke to a few colleagues abt it today...

    Maaan, I am a big fan of harshas btw.. just as am a big fan of Rashmis! BUT hmmmm... intellectual property rights!!! If you dont take the initiative to protect it then who will?...

    Just be nice to him :) please...

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  18. Anonymous12:30 AM

    So did you hear from the radio?

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  19. We have received a mail on this respect from the listener .We have gone through the show recordings of that day . We should like to clarify that movie reviews is a recorded segment featuring weekly on a presenters show, voiced by narrator and not the presenter on show. This capsule is garnered from various inputs –listener reviews,tabloid , gossip mags and sites.The due credits/reference gets mentioned either at the beginning of the capsule or towards the end in order to provide authenticity to the opinions gathered Such reviews often contain opinions sent by listeners.There can be instances of listeners sending in their reviews influenzed by a blog..As you can appreciate, Judging the originality of their opinion is highly impossible. This compilation is edited by the production team it is possible sometimes that a reference might get overlooked or inadvertently chopped by the editing team to fit into the time band.
    The presenter says out his name in almost every link and spells out his email id frequently .So the question of the presenter hesitating to give out his name is a moot point. We should like to convey to all concerned that the next day morning we did visit the youth curry site after the listener had pointed us to this and so we have made amends by mentioning the jammag credit for the dor review that had been aired the previous evening. We regret the inconvenience caused and we would like to reiterate that plagarism is strongly denounced .

    Thanks.

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  20. I see here that everybody was just itching to jump the bandwagon and point fingers at the RJ and the RadioStation without bothering to get an explanation from them. One always forgets that there are 2 sides to a coin and the Radiostation has done good by letting us know the behind the scenes happenings. I guess the anonymous caller was in a hurry to nail the RJ to a cross.
    Vinay - quite below the belt stuff in your comments -Wanting to trounce the guy to your 5000+ Dubai friends!
    I have seen RJ Harsha at his road shows and occassionaly do tune into him when I am in the car at the time of his show and I agree with sugababe that he is one of the last cool RJ's around who keeps the blabber minimal and the essence strong.

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  21. Great, but what about the fact that Harsha claimed (as the reader says) that HE had written the review? Sucks!

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  22. "Harsha claimed"..."Reader says"... - why is one of our own blogger believed over the RJ - JUST BECAUSE SHE IS A BLOGGER/ ONE OF US?? SHE HERSELF SAYS THAT ALL OF THE RJ's ON THAT STATION SOUND THE SAME AND SO SHE COULDNT BE SURE WHO IT WAS SO HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IT WAS HARSHA IN THE FIRST PLACE WHO CALLED HER UP AND NOT ANOTHER RJ OR ASSISTANT WHO MANS THEIR SMS LINE!
    Besides, telephone conversations can be misinterpreted especially when the person on the other end becomes accusatory. All natural reactions from the other party...
    My personal opinion is that we should be raising our voices against the producers of Dor, if any. Their movie is a rip off of a Malayalm movie starring Dilip, Meera Jasmine and Oduvil Unnikrishnan. Now thats plagiarism for you ;)Not to forget our very own Anu Malik. !

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  23. hi sugaferry,
    u got it! mercator it is! wow! it really is a small world! so which team? and how did u guess that? (considering that mercator is a tiny part of emirates)

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  24. Yo Sheridan, I fully agree with you on this, I myself have been an RJ in Bangalore and I was subject to this .In a whacked out radio station atmosphere, there are lot of lukhas fooling around, any one can make a call through an sms number . I had this instance of my production staff fixing up dates claiming it's me lol..yea they found it funny, not me .I was taken by surprise when this lady
    asks me on air "So is the date fixed for tomorrow,and i was like what date???. and this other female calling up saying "you @#%^ you ditched me.. Aw god!! Was i going around with you. I presume here since the person calling was hesitating for giving the name it must be some lukha at work.
    Always talk to the presenter straight out then shooting an sms. You get the real thing.

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  25. Anonymous6:48 PM

    Ok, so now you wanna blame the blogger?
    Did the blogger leave her name in order to get into the limelight for arguing with the guy? did she leave her blog address so that she can increase traffic to her site?

    No.

    So why then, do you think she did this?
    Does she have a personal thing against the RJ? I doubt it. cos if she did, then the radio station sure as hell would have made sure that she was tracked down and publicly stated exactly what the girl’s issue was so that they are safe.
    Assuming it was radio 4 who commented (we can’t be sure since the link does not lead anywhere) they know that the RJ did indeed quote Rashmi’s blog and tried to pass it off as his own. Which is why they are only defending themselves and apologizing indirectly instead of denying that it happened.

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  26. LOL this is begining to sound funny now, but I choose to disect the radio4fm response as something was taken really casually... oh the things we do for IPR heh...

    "We should like to clarify that movie reviews is a recorded segment featuring weekly on a presenters show, voiced by narrator and not the presenter on show."

    -Agreed, but who usually does the recorded segment(Star Talk i think)? 99.9% of the time, Harsha ofcourse. If its not Star talk then I dont know what you are talkin about.

    "This capsule is garnered from various inputs –listener reviews,tabloid , gossip mags and sites. The due credits/reference gets mentioned either at the beginning of the capsule or towards the end in order to provide authenticity to the opinions gathered."

    -Well you cant scatter the blame like that, if you chooes to not quote the author/source it is a big thing, bad thing... You might wanna consider this: If you are gonna "gather" your info like that then how do you think it will add any credibility to that program segment/presenter and the the radiochannel as a whole? The source HAS TO BE TRACED NO MATTER WHAT. Dont publish it /air it if you have doubts, simple! KTimes and GNews gotta learn this simple mantra too :S

    "Such reviews often contain opinions sent by listeners.There can be instances of listeners sending in their reviews influenzed by a blog.."

    -Then present it as listeners' views or something. Don't go onto blame them listeners now? :-O I listen to only Radio4fm, dont do this to me!

    "As you can appreciate, Judging the originality of their opinion is highly impossible. This compilation is edited by the production team it is possible sometimes that a reference might get overlooked or inadvertently chopped by the editing team to fit into the time band. "
    --Dont use it if you cant quote the source! Thats just a lame excuse.

    "The presenter says out his name in almost every link and spells out his email id frequently .So the question of the presenter hesitating to give out his name is a moot point."
    -- Well yeah they do, thats true but episode was on phone, the presenter panicked on the phone remember? When he was caught rangey hathon...

    "We should like to convey to all concerned that the next day morning we did visit the youth curry site after the listener had pointed us to this and so we have made amends by mentioning the jammag credit for the dor review that had been aired the previous evening. We regret the inconvenience caused -- :)


    "and we would like to reiterate that plagarism is strongly denounced ."
    -- yup, gotta get the message out!

    Hi Vinay - CCIT, your team? Correction: Mercator is not a small part :-0 but is one of the fundamental parts of the EK Group!

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  27. It was quite decent of the radio station management to write an explanation. They can't always control their employees. At least they went some way to fixing the problem.

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  28. guys,
    Clicking on the radio 89.1 link, i just noticed that this blogger profile - Radio4Connect has been in existence only since Sept06 and has no other team members. Its blog page also isnt available on blogger's server. Is this an official response from Radio89.1 at all? or is it a hasty bit of firefighting by the offending RJ, who probably frequents this blog? weekend mystery huh! Also, the lone defender Sherdian's blog - Straight from the Heart, too has been in existence only since sept 06. Are these just aliases?
    anyways, with this i'm thru with this topic. it isn't that big a deal i guess...shit happens!
    Hi SUgababe, i checked out some of ur writings, u write well...my extension is 3242. let's see (hear!) how u talk! ;-)
    Vin

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  29. damn!! u can actually cut a DEAL with them.
    1. Free publicity of ur blog for a whole month :) on their shows.
    2. Sponsor your mag.

    even copying has a PRICE. xerox doesnt come FREE!! :)

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  30. Some cheap drama here, Sonia evidently the anonymous writer, the accomplice Vinay the defender Sheridan…lol. All chewing on a dead gum… It’s decent that the radio station even apologized for this coz it was just the movie facts they had picked …blue burkha ,Nagesh’s accent- Any lay person can see that glaring on screen,it’s just very normal literary work,film factin spoken English and not some created storyline.They felt somehow they faltered ,they apologized ,they amended with credits , Great.

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  31. I'm glad the radio station has acknowledged the complaint, although their explanation is not fully convincing. If 'content' is a problem, officially tying up with media or individual bloggers is one solution.

    The other is to have natural conversations expressing your own opinions - the way Jaggu and Tarana used to banter on Go 92.5 FM - before it became Radio One. That is the kind of stuff that hooks listeners. So guys, lead interesting lives, develop your own style and personality. You will never need to read out or paraphrase someone else's opinion again!

    Many thanks to all of you who joined in this debate; and especially to the reader who originally pointed this out to me. I close this chapter with the fond hope that someone, somewhere will think twice before taking the easy way out...!

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  32. Wise closing words from a wise person.Sanity prevails...

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  33. whoa! 32 comments! :D guess everybody just loves controversies huh? hehe... hmmm well they do their job well Rashmi, Radio4 is like MTV-on-radio ovah here. Hmmm if its not StarTalk(in other words Harsha :D) then i bet it was this new dude (who is so not Harsha)who must have made the blunder! Anyways, raat gai baat gai... nowadays ppls ears are so so chaukanna! god!

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  34. Tsk Tsk.
    The plight of Some Radio Jocks!!
    Maybe xxxx shud come down to Mumbai or Blr and listen to some Real Indian Radio?
    Say what?

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