tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post114363554243152305..comments2023-12-24T01:23:48.970+05:30Comments on Youth Curry - Insight on Indian Youth: From Cambridge to Harvard : a Political JourneyRashmi Bansalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17447667745099994241noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1144522937644152182006-04-09T00:32:00.000+05:302006-04-09T00:32:00.000+05:30i disliked the gandhi-nehru family, after the degr...i disliked the gandhi-nehru family, after the degree waala chakkar i hate them even more.amazing archiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16211165850090610896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1144086250370799072006-04-03T23:14:00.000+05:302006-04-03T23:14:00.000+05:30It takes an inteeligent mind to resist the educati...It takes an inteeligent mind to resist the education.Stonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053118951693455094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1144070839444067552006-04-03T18:57:00.000+05:302006-04-03T18:57:00.000+05:30absolutely bogus, not the article but the response...absolutely bogus, not the article but the response abt IIT/IIM statement.... it seems as if some ppl get annoyed just by the mention of IIT&IIM.... guys, take it easy, wht she means is that LAW degree was once a launching pad for politics etc. and was 'respected' in social circles like the present IIT/IIMs degree holders.<BR/>Rashmi, its really smart of you to not reply to comments, it'll me a big mess !<BR/><BR/>--raneranehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07361422026965171736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1144015356345624052006-04-03T03:32:00.000+05:302006-04-03T03:32:00.000+05:30Nice long post but I think using a report/reports ...Nice long post but I think using a report/reports from TOI and then refuting them one by one was a bit of a waste of time. No self-respecting person in India reads(or believes) TOI anymore,anyway.<BR/><BR/>Great blog you got here - Keep it coming!!The Guy Next Doorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02896534228916398192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1144005142605313392006-04-03T00:42:00.000+05:302006-04-03T00:42:00.000+05:30A small request. It would be nice if you could pos...A small request. It would be nice if you could post atleast one comment in each blog of yours clarifying some of the important points raised by the readers. I know its not possible to reoly to each comment. But I can clearly see a trend in the issues raised by most of the commenters. Like in the brouhaha caused by your casual statements on IIM C. You just kept mum. Dont know why. If the comments section is ON, one response from the blogger per article summarising some of the issues raised makes more sense. Big deal?<BR/>If you cannot interact with your readers, switch if OFF.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06613258130578529841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143872900551817072006-04-01T11:58:00.000+05:302006-04-01T11:58:00.000+05:30goodhttp://blog.hitechinfosoft.comgood<BR/>http://blog.hitechinfosoft.comDevang Barothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06649084635168353768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143829905491698922006-04-01T00:01:00.000+05:302006-04-01T00:01:00.000+05:30nice article ..there r some overextended arguments...nice article ..there r some overextended arguments ..but overall a really good analysisShreyabha Pandeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03666442603795006198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143826014291908302006-03-31T22:56:00.000+05:302006-03-31T22:56:00.000+05:30HI Rashmi,Good post.Folks.. the focus here is NOT ...HI Rashmi,<BR/><BR/>Good post.<BR/><BR/>Folks.. the focus here is NOT whether IIT/IIMs or Some other qualifications are the way to social mobility.. its just a metaphor. And its not wrong anyways. <BR/><BR/>@ freespirit - Its nice to have difference in opinion. But, what do you know about responsibility? Making a statement makes one irresponsible? Which world are you from? Stop attacking people and learn to focus on the issue.<BR/><BR/>@ psp59 - Please wake up. Only harvard/Wharton is good and IIMs are not even comaparable is a colonial hangover. Think about it. Did you study in an IIM or IIT/IIsc? Don't start unnecesary issues.<BR/><BR/>If any body think otherwise, pleaselet me know.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>Satheesh<BR/><BR/>http://educatethechildren.blogspot.com<BR/>http://marakka-mudiyavillai.blogspot.com<BR/>http://philosophy-and-science.blogspot.com<BR/>http://laugh-is-life.blogspot.comChaos And Order - "Satheesh"https://www.blogger.com/profile/16062473604726565733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143819363376646472006-03-31T21:06:00.000+05:302006-03-31T21:06:00.000+05:30I was following the Rahul Gandhi academic qualific...I was following the Rahul Gandhi academic qualifications story during last election. What hurts is not the fact that Rahul couldn't perform academically. It is tough to do so when you don't belong to the lower or middle classes of India rather to the ruling aristocractic class of India. He couldn't get a BA but got a M.Phil. WoW. That makes a mockery of all the young students who are prespiring long hours to make a career. He didn't drop out of Harvard rather couldn't pass the exams. That increases my respect for Harvard and casts doubt on Cambridge.<BR/><BR/>The bit that really pains me is that his spin doctors are still running that story. <BR/><BR/>The very fact that someone so deceitful could be so close to power is a matter of concern. Shouldn't we get alarmed. This is all the more reason to start supporting the young turks in India who have started on their own, be it "Paritran" or "BharatUday" and many others.KAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14068881892183139574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143790903085295192006-03-31T13:11:00.000+05:302006-03-31T13:11:00.000+05:30Thanks for throwing light on the "degree truth" ab...Thanks for throwing light on the "degree truth" about Gandhis..rachanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14183659688400073503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143755906701340122006-03-31T03:28:00.000+05:302006-03-31T03:28:00.000+05:30guyz ...the IIT/IIM context was a metaphor for 'be...guyz ...the IIT/IIM context was a metaphor for 'being set'irrespective of the long term consequences..of course thr were othr roads to sucess evn in those dayz but being a barrister or a lawyer would b guranteeing social standing...admit it ..evn iim n iitian have standingKapilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12153345721212064073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143727136828016502006-03-30T19:28:00.000+05:302006-03-30T19:28:00.000+05:30I would have to disagree with you on one point: II...I would have to disagree with you on one point: IIT/IIM's are not merely ladders to social mobility, as you put it...I have cleared the IIT-JEE mains exam, and let me tell you, if you look at it merely as a ticket to a fat salary, you will not get it..to get through, you need to want it badly enough, at a fundamental level...I am not sure about the IIMs, but looking at my friends who are preparing for CAT, I do not believe that is the case...these are people who have genuine reasons for wanting to study management...the Monkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01594225626083765563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143716905164690732006-03-30T16:38:00.000+05:302006-03-30T16:38:00.000+05:30Rightly said indian politicians don't need any aca...Rightly said indian politicians don't need any academic education. Examples are plenty that even illiterate people made it high up, so, there should be no worry for new gandhi. But really, it highlights his insecurity by keeping a secret about his academics. People don't care abotu it but still if you try to hide it then offcourse people start doubting that you may be hiding many more things.<BR/>For Nitin Pai and freespirit, read again, Rashmi is talking about education brands, not about education. She has already taken a safe stance and there is no point in growling like indian opposition. IIT/IIM are 'regarded as best education institutes', its your wish you personally count them or not. Do you really think, in colonial times, studing in western style schools made too much of difference?Frodohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14784164207007152692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143710416721159942006-03-30T14:50:00.000+05:302006-03-30T14:50:00.000+05:30Hi, Agree with one of the comments that making ...Hi,<BR/> Agree with one of the comments that making it to an IIT/IIM is not the only way to acquire "social mobility". There are thousands of other professionals , who are not from the IITs or IIMs, but from other reputed instis as also self -made entrepreneurs who are definetly socially mobile. I feel you have been hanging on to the IIM crutch for far too long, don't you have any other achievements apart from having done an MBA from an IIM in the early 90s?Nitinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07795333474639795153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143676716914589282006-03-30T05:28:00.000+05:302006-03-30T05:28:00.000+05:30hi,pretty interesting blog collection. Got to know...hi,<BR/>pretty interesting blog collection. Got to know about it pretty late, but late than never.<BR/>enjoyed reading them.dharmuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12752775423917890968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143653322146711762006-03-29T22:58:00.000+05:302006-03-29T22:58:00.000+05:30Does indian junta care about education/credibility...Does indian junta care about education/credibility of their leaders? <B>Hardly!!</B><BR/>Infact if sonia gandhi can be (s)elected as a PM, anyone can run for the post (Only eligibility needed is that the person should have Gandhi surname and of course, shrewd and wicked character!!)<BR/><BR/>I dont think Rahul gandhi needs to worry about anything. He has a great career ahead of himself -- esp when he is born to such a *sacrificing* mother!<BR/>Maybe its time to send the Gandhis to Axeland!! "<I> Just a prey away </I>"<BR/>:)<BR/><BR/>Ashish<BR/>http://ashish-sinha.blogspot.com<BR/>http://KreativeKommons.blogspot.comAshishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16137601243332978745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143647391603877892006-03-29T21:19:00.000+05:302006-03-29T21:19:00.000+05:30Nice and a different story.One thought. Could it b...Nice and a different story.<BR/><BR/>One thought. Could it be possible that an erudite education or more truly learning to Indira (like that of her father) would have turned her into a far more balanced (less insecure) a personality??<BR/><BR/>She is someone who is acknowledged as one with a great brain and also not a bad heart but had some very strong traits which weren't positive. Can a more thorough grounding at school/college level change that??Akash Sethiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11351068798810789870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143642819277419002006-03-29T20:03:00.000+05:302006-03-29T20:03:00.000+05:30The other question is did he actually work with Po...The other question is did he actually work with Porter's consulting firm in London, the Monitor Group?<BR/><BR/>Some reports quote him having worked in an investment bank...some at a computer firm...and others at Monitor.<BR/><BR/>Although I won't put it past Porter to take him on to get access to Indian politicians ...even Chelsea Clinton got selected by McKinsey (or was it BCG?)Gautam Ghoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04691216163099240523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143638025270068312006-03-29T18:43:00.000+05:302006-03-29T18:43:00.000+05:30Hi Rashmi,I agree with you. Whether Rahul has a de...Hi Rashmi,<BR/><BR/>I agree with you. Whether Rahul has a degree or not, is not going to have any drastic effect on his future political career. If he is ever going to lead the Congress, for which he is apparently been groomed for, it makes more sense to come clean on his qualifications. As you pointed out, dropping out hasn't been a hindrance for a successful political career. The people who actually vote are the ones who actually rule the nation. So the people who rule the Indian nation are predominantly from the villages and semi-urban areas. For them, the deciding factor for voting to Congress is nothing but “the Gandhi tag”. For the lobbyists, they will bet on the winning horse. The rest who don’t vote, just don’t have to care. So, it makes more sense even in a political point of view to come clean on his qualifications and portray himself as a straight forward individual. People appreciate clear thinking as seen in Bush’s re-election only because he was successful in communicating his policies in clear light than Kerry could. So to start with, an introspection and realization of his strengths and more importantly his weaknesses would do a lot good for him and the nation as a whole.Praveen Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379580546918694315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143637108193033162006-03-29T18:28:00.000+05:302006-03-29T18:28:00.000+05:30This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Praveen Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379580546918694315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9605787.post-1143636906607667912006-03-29T18:25:00.000+05:302006-03-29T18:25:00.000+05:30This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Praveen Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379580546918694315noreply@blogger.com